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Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:53 am
by Fringe407
Test book: UHO 2024
Time:1+1
Threads:1
Hash:64
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 killfish190324 30 35 140 54.3% 62.9%
2 Marauders 3.0_avx2 15 32 140 52.1% 68.6%
3 Brainlearn27-x86-64-avx2 5 38 140 50.7% 57.1%
4 Big-SF 210324-avx2 0 39 140 50.0% 54.3%
5 stockfish_24032015 -2 34 140 49.6% 65.0%
6 INCOGNITO 7-avx2 -10 34 140 48.6% 64.3%
7 corchess_x64_avx2 -15 36 140 47.9% 61.4%
8 Raid depth-- -22 37 140 46.8% 57.9%
PGN:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/JrqXmsuU
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:47 pm
by Fringe407
Test suit :UHO2024
Hash:64
Thread:1CPU
Time:1+1
Score of corchess220324 vs SF-PB-200324: 36 - 29 - 85 [0.523]
... corchess_x64_avx2 playing White: 35 - 0 - 40 [0.733] 75
... corchess_x64_avx2 playing Black: 1 - 29 - 45 [0.313] 75
... White vs Black: 64 - 1 - 85 [0.710] 150
Elo difference: 16.2 +/- 36.7, LOS: 80.7 %, DrawRatio: 56.7 %
SPRT: llr 0 (0.0%), lbound -inf, ubound inf
150 of 150 games finished.
pgn:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/nCzcMEhp
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:37 pm
by Fringe407
Test book: UHO 2024
Time:1+1
Threads:1
Hash:64
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Big-SF 220324-avx2 22 37 140 53.2% 57.9%
2 Light 26.3-avx2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
3 HypnoS-190324_x64_AVX2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
4 killfish190324 7 35 140 51.1% 62.1%
5 TacticaL Gear 3.1_avx2 0 38 140 50.0% 55.7%
6 Marauders 3.0_avx2 -15 37 140 47.9% 58.6%
7 Deep Blue -15 40 140 47.9% 52.9%
8 stockfish16.1 -30 42 140 45.7% 47.1%
pgn:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/NNfmA9ge
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:38 pm
by Fringe407
Test book: UHO 2024
Time:1+1
Threads:1
Hash:64
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 corchess220324 10 47 100 51.5% 53.0%
2 INCOGNITO 8 7 45 100 51.0% 56.0%
3 HypnoS 240324 -17 48 100 47.5% 51.0%
pgn:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/iDiPTXWm
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:01 pm
by Solista
Fringe407 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:37 pm
Test book: UHO 2024
Time:1+1
Threads:1
Hash:64
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Big-SF 220324-avx2 22 37 140 53.2% 57.9%
2 Light 26.3-avx2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
3 HypnoS-190324_x64_AVX2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
4 killfish190324 7 35 140 51.1% 62.1%
5 TacticaL Gear 3.1_avx2 0 38 140 50.0% 55.7%
6 Marauders 3.0_avx2 -15 37 140 47.9% 58.6%
7 Deep Blue -15 40 140 47.9% 52.9%
8 stockfish16.1 -30 42 140 45.7% 47.1%
pgn:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/NNfmA9ge
I'm glad you're having fun testing! I looked at the source code of Hypnos 190324. The engine is not as new as the date. Most of the code is about 2 months old. It was mixed, old code with new code. That doesn't have to be bad, but old parameters were mixed with new parameters. From what I've heard, this version of Hypnos is not MZ himself. MZ provided only a basis and others are now experimenting with it.
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:31 pm
by Fringe407
Solista wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:01 pm
Fringe407 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:37 pm
Test book: UHO 2024
Time:1+1
Threads:1
Hash:64
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Big-SF 220324-avx2 22 37 140 53.2% 57.9%
2 Light 26.3-avx2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
3 HypnoS-190324_x64_AVX2 15 38 140 52.1% 57.1%
4 killfish190324 7 35 140 51.1% 62.1%
5 TacticaL Gear 3.1_avx2 0 38 140 50.0% 55.7%
6 Marauders 3.0_avx2 -15 37 140 47.9% 58.6%
7 Deep Blue -15 40 140 47.9% 52.9%
8 stockfish16.1 -30 42 140 45.7% 47.1%
pgn:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/NNfmA9ge
I'm glad you're having fun testing! I looked at the source code of Hypnos 190324. The engine is not as new as the date. Most of the code is about 2 months old. It was mixed, old code with new code. That doesn't have to be bad, but old parameters were mixed with new parameters. From what I've heard, this version of Hypnos is not MZ himself. MZ provided only a basis and others are now experimenting with it.
My dear friend Eduard,
I honestly didn't know that. I'm going to use the Hypnos240324 version in my new test. Where I got the engines is actually from the source file. Link:
https://github.com/Zerbinati/HypnoS/releases/tag/240324
Besides, your engine series are very valuable to me. I beat some cowards with your engines in lichess.
On the other hand, his tactical solving percentage surprises me. Following you and testing your engines is a fun activity for me mate.
I use various special books for my lichess bot. I came across your book on a torrent site a long time ago and downloaded it. I tested it and it was very powerful. If I'm not mistaken, it was solista attack 8.1. Then the file was deleted. Until now, if that book is yours, it has never been defeated, my dear friend.
If I talk about Light 26.3, it beat your other engine, which was the 1st engine in the test, by a small margin in another test. I sent you a private e-mail with the file and the result, I hope you saw it.
Best regards,
Fringe
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:08 pm
by Solista
Like I said, it's a mix of old and new in the Hypnos 190324 version. Just two quick comparisons, the hypnos code here is 2 months older than the SF dev code.
SF dev:
for (size_t i = 1; i < reductions.size(); ++i)
reductions = int((19.80 + std::log(size_t(options["Threads"])) / 2) * std::log(i));
Hypnos dev
for (int i = 1; i < MAX_MOVES; ++i)
Reductions = int((20.37 + std::log(Threads.size()) / 2) * std::log(i));
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SF dev.
Depth Search::Worker::reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta) {
int reductionScale = reductions[d] * reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1091 - delta * 759 / rootDelta) / 1024 + (!i && reductionScale > 950);
Hypnos dev.
Depth reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta, int rootDelta) {
int reductionScale = Reductions[d] * Reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1346 - int(delta) * 896 / int(rootDelta)) / 1024
+ (!i && reductionScale > 880);
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My Solista Attack book is commercial, I sell it, it's not free. I have two versions, BIN and CTG. Which one do you use? The current version is 8.4.
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:19 pm
by Solista
HypnoS 240324
Allign to: "VVLTC search tune"
That is not correct.
Here only one example, there are many more:
SF dev. "VVLTC search tune":
Depth Search::Worker::reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta) {
int reductionScale = reductions[d] * reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1107 - delta * 725 / rootDelta) / 1024 + (!i && reductionScale > 956);
HypnoS 240324:
// Reductions lookup table initialized at startup
int Reductions[MAX_MOVES]; // [depth or moveNumber]
Depth reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta, int rootDelta) {
int reductionScale = Reductions[d] * Reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1346 - int(delta) * 896 / int(rootDelta)) / 1024
+ (!i && reductionScale > 880);
SF dev. VVLTC search tune
for (size_t i = 1; i < reductions.size(); ++i)
reductions
= int((19.80 + std::log(size_t(options["Threads"])) / 2) * std::log(i));
HypnoS 240324 VVLTC search tune
for (int i = 1; i < MAX_MOVES; ++i)
Reductions = int((20.37 + std::log(Threads.size()) / 2) * std::log(i));
HypnoS 240324 is (fake) OLD SF CODE "VVLTC search tune"
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Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:45 pm
by Fringe407
Solista wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:19 pm
HypnoS 240324
Allign to: "VVLTC search tune"
That is not correct.
Here only one example, there are many more:
SF dev. "VVLTC search tune":
Depth Search::Worker::reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta) {
int reductionScale = reductions[d] * reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1107 - delta * 725 / rootDelta) / 1024 + (!i && reductionScale > 956);
HypnoS 240324:
// Reductions lookup table initialized at startup
int Reductions[MAX_MOVES]; // [depth or moveNumber]
Depth reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta, int rootDelta) {
int reductionScale = Reductions[d] * Reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1346 - int(delta) * 896 / int(rootDelta)) / 1024
+ (!i && reductionScale > 880);
SF dev. VVLTC search tune
for (size_t i = 1; i < reductions.size(); ++i)
reductions
= int((19.80 + std::log(size_t(options["Threads"])) / 2) * std::log(i));
HypnoS 240324 VVLTC search tune
for (int i = 1; i < MAX_MOVES; ++i)
Reductions = int((20.37 + std::log(Threads.size()) / 2) * std::log(i));
HypnoS 240324 is (fake) OLD SF CODE "VVLTC search tune"
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My dear friend Eduard,
It seems that these codes are really about 2 months old. We have a small request to Marco Zebinati, we want a new version of your own.
Also, I didn't know your book was for sale and as I said, I found it on a torrent site. It says solista attack 8.1.bin. I can delete the book if you don't want me to use it. I trusted the book when I saw that it belonged to you. It's an old version, but it's still very good.
Best regards,
Fringe
Re: Fringe- Special Engine and Book Tests
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:53 pm
by Solista
Keep the book! I would give it to you for free too.
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This line is funny, which was changed by the developers to VVLTC search tune:
SF dev "VVLTC search tune" changed:
Depth Search::Worker::reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta) {
int reductionScale = reductions[d] * reductions[mn];
- return (reductionScale + 1091 - delta * 759 / rootDelta) / 1024 + (!i && reductionScale > 950);
+
return (reductionScale + 1107 - delta * 725 / rootDelta) / 1024 + (!i && reductionScale > 956);
And what does it say in HypnoS 240324 VVLTC search tune? So:
Depth reduction(bool i, Depth d, int mn, int delta, int rootDelta) {
int reductionScale = Reductions[d] * Reductions[mn];
return (reductionScale + 1346 - int(delta) * 896 / int(rootDelta)) / 1024
+ (!i && reductionScale > 880);
Absolute wrong (very old SF code, no VVLTC search tune).