Engine-Test Experiment on Lichess
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:57 am
4. Nov 2023: Engine-Test Experiment on Lichess:
As a human, I have been playing Lichess for many years. I have been playing with engines there since July 2021. It has now become easy to achieve a high Elo with engines. In 2021, I only managed an Elo of around 2700 with engines. Most engines at that time had much fewer Elo points than they do today. If my own Elo is 600 points higher than that of my opponent, then I have to win several games so that I only get +1 Elo. With 2700 Elo in 2021, I reached the limit where no Elo improvement was possible. That's why I stopped playing Lichess for a year. What does it look like today? The so-called bot elite currently has around 3200 Elo. This elite is led by several ProteusSF accounts. There are more Proteus SF accounts (a private engine by A. Alessandro) on Lichess than others with more than 3000 Elo points. Anyone who looks at ProteusSF games will see that they have played thousands of games against weak engines. To gain just 100 Elo he had to play thousands of games and win against opponents with up to 2600 Elo. But there are only a few much stronger opponents. If you don't want to wait minutes or hours until a new game against strong opponents takes place, you are forced to play against weak opponents. I also challenged ProteusSF yesterday, but he doesn't accept offers from strong opponents. He's just bragging like he does on PlayChess.
The day before yesterday I therefore started an experiment on Lichess. I created a new bot account and wanted to see how quickly I could get a high Elo rating. But that is not all! I wanted to see how many Elo points I could get with just half core on my 24 thread computer. Half a core = 1 thread. I loaded my engine Light 9.0 and the engine ran on one thread and only 1000 kns. The book I used was my Solista Polyglot book. How many Elo points could I achieve after just 2 days? See for yourself --> picture:
I needed less than 150 games (far from thousands of games). Only in the Bullet did the engine play with more cores. Go to Lichess and see if you see a bot account (apart from ProteusSF) that has more Elo points. You won't find any! Most of the bots I played against had an Elo of 2390 to 2840. It's pretty easy to defeat bots up to Elo 2600. Stockfish is enough for this with just 1000 kns and a solid book. I can also play against the other few bots with more than 2900 Elo on PlayChess.com, they are the same, and I don't have to wait long. I find Lichess interesting, especially because there are a lot of amateur engines playing there. It was fun playing against them too. However, if I have an Elo of over 3000, then it no longer makes sense. I only lost two games due to disconnects with my EdoBot.
More here:
https://solistachess.jimdosite.com/solista-news/
As a human, I have been playing Lichess for many years. I have been playing with engines there since July 2021. It has now become easy to achieve a high Elo with engines. In 2021, I only managed an Elo of around 2700 with engines. Most engines at that time had much fewer Elo points than they do today. If my own Elo is 600 points higher than that of my opponent, then I have to win several games so that I only get +1 Elo. With 2700 Elo in 2021, I reached the limit where no Elo improvement was possible. That's why I stopped playing Lichess for a year. What does it look like today? The so-called bot elite currently has around 3200 Elo. This elite is led by several ProteusSF accounts. There are more Proteus SF accounts (a private engine by A. Alessandro) on Lichess than others with more than 3000 Elo points. Anyone who looks at ProteusSF games will see that they have played thousands of games against weak engines. To gain just 100 Elo he had to play thousands of games and win against opponents with up to 2600 Elo. But there are only a few much stronger opponents. If you don't want to wait minutes or hours until a new game against strong opponents takes place, you are forced to play against weak opponents. I also challenged ProteusSF yesterday, but he doesn't accept offers from strong opponents. He's just bragging like he does on PlayChess.
The day before yesterday I therefore started an experiment on Lichess. I created a new bot account and wanted to see how quickly I could get a high Elo rating. But that is not all! I wanted to see how many Elo points I could get with just half core on my 24 thread computer. Half a core = 1 thread. I loaded my engine Light 9.0 and the engine ran on one thread and only 1000 kns. The book I used was my Solista Polyglot book. How many Elo points could I achieve after just 2 days? See for yourself --> picture:
I needed less than 150 games (far from thousands of games). Only in the Bullet did the engine play with more cores. Go to Lichess and see if you see a bot account (apart from ProteusSF) that has more Elo points. You won't find any! Most of the bots I played against had an Elo of 2390 to 2840. It's pretty easy to defeat bots up to Elo 2600. Stockfish is enough for this with just 1000 kns and a solid book. I can also play against the other few bots with more than 2900 Elo on PlayChess.com, they are the same, and I don't have to wait long. I find Lichess interesting, especially because there are a lot of amateur engines playing there. It was fun playing against them too. However, if I have an Elo of over 3000, then it no longer makes sense. I only lost two games due to disconnects with my EdoBot.
More here:
https://solistachess.jimdosite.com/solista-news/
This is a joke!
