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Posted: **Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:56 pm**

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Many thanks to Sedat Canbaz for permission to quote from his web site ..

Full list and other details available here >> https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14

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Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:43 am**

Hello Chess Friends,

Here is my latest Unique Opening Test Suite, for more details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... test-suite

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:11 pm**

Hello Chess Friends,

1st of all,
This time, I've realized to test the Top engines, which are publicly available...
And only those ones which are capable to learn (sure during game-play...)
Otherwise, the test conditions will be not so fair..if we will allow all engines..

As current players,
I picked the engines which performed not so bad in my recent competitions!
Btw, instead of Brainlearn 25, I picked older vers, the reason: Brainlearn 25
Generated no any exp file, I mean via Seld-Q-Learning enabled, where with
Same settings, Brainlearn 24 is worked flawlessly (experience is created...)
Plus as older version, I used LittleBeast 2, due to it seems slightly stronger...

On other hand,
Eman is managed to be Number One under Blitz conditions..actually no BIG
Surprise... e.g Mr. Khalid is one of the best programmers in engine learning!

What I can say more (for anyone missed),
Unfortunately RaptoRa 2.2 is a private chess engine... so it is not allowed...
But the good news is that, Eman, LittleBeast, BrainLearn etc.are available!
Note also that current Sugar ver is available too, but after purchasing in Outskirts..

For More Details, Games, Ranking:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-34

Greetings

Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:31 am**

Dear Chess Friends,

As usually, I'm pleased to announce that,
I've managed to organize a new Duel match!

Well, this time as current players,
I've picked the Winners of my recent tourneys: XXXIV / XXXIII / XXXII
And I think that both Top engines fully deserve to be in fight each other!

To be honest
In my eyes, there is no any Winner between Eman and RaptoRa, because
As we see, theirs performance is almost identical... just 1 point difference...

Meanwhile, what is new (than my previous organized recent Blitz tournney)
The current Duel played as Pondering enabled (thinking on opponents turn)
Plus in this Duel, both Top engines are used to play much more openings...

The Duel's Winner: EMAN - My Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

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1   Eman 8.91    +25/-24/=551 50.08%  300.5/600
2   RapTora 2.2  +24/-25/=551 49.92%  299.5/600

For More Details, Games etc.:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... vs-raprora

Greetings

Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:00 pm**

Breaking News - 21.06.2023:
Via latest update just only 1 (one) book is entered:..but very strong one!
Yes, ChessBot (by Cevdet Sarı) managed to be ranked as currently 3rd
Plus ChessBot book's overall draw-ratio is incredible very low..just 84%
Sure I wonder too, who will manage to stop HcanFree...all public books!
I mean it should be so hard to overcome...ok, let's see in the next days...

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:03 am**

Breaking News - 25.06.2023:
Via this update again only 1 (one) book entered:. and even as old-dated
Goi 241222 performed really very good.. note also that via latest update
The Top standings are slightly changed, sure the Leader (HCan) is same
But LesChats is currently 2nd, where Cacho is 3rd and interesting that
For the moment, we have 6 (six) books, which are belonging to 4rd rank!
Btw, just I'd like to inform you also that the current tour is already paused..
Resuming date is unknown, because here, where I live is summer-time..
It's time for holiday... I need to take a good rest... see you later )

For Latest Rankings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14

By the way,
Many thanks to Mr. Goi, for the current gift..

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:53 pm**

Hello Chess Friends,

New similarity data based mainly on latest Top engines:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -july-2023

Actually, this is known that many of Top engines are
Very close to each other, especially which are 3700+

Note that these values are generated with time 100 ms
Just imagine, e.g 10 Sec (per move), then very likely
Their percentages would be much close to each other!

On other hand, what is interesting to point out that,
Usually SF based engines have almost same bug/s!
E.g I am referring about the latest CTG buggy code,
If not so clear, you may see what is gong on: Details

As another shocking news is that,
SF PB 190623 vs Polyfish 210623 has a similarity: 99%
It seems that both engines are based on same source!
And this is other question of course, anyhow as a tester,
In my next tours, I wonder which one to test...you know
Testing almost same identical ones will be meaningless!

By the way, I've tested RapTora 2.2 by Antonio Ces plus
RapTora 2.2 by Eduard Nemeth, where their results: 92%
What does it mean? not exactly same vers..but very close!

As final words (about all SF based engines),
The Mother is clear... but I wonder who is the Father?)

Ok..that's all for now and thanks for your interest )

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:44 pm**

Hello there )

I've realized to check again... and what a pity that
Even with new releases: same CTG bug is still on scene!
E.g today I tested Brainlearn 25.1 vs Polyfish 210623
And unfortunately the error happened again, btw actually
SugaR and CatroPoly are the ones with same CTG bug too!

And to be more clear,
I ran a few quick games, using a CTG book, based on only wins!
And as in previous test, the lost lines are played again..sad..

On other hand, (as I stated before):
In case of Polyglot book (if based on only wins) then
The Engine is out of book e.g which contains lost lines!

It's clear that there is something wrong in their CTG code!
And I still hope that,
The Top programmers will fix it (in next releases) and who knows?
Then we may run and test serious CTG books under Cutechess too!

Thank you in advance!

By the way (for anyone interested),
Here are the recent played games + my used wins ctg book:
https://mega.nz/file/204yHKwA#n5Xe32Ewr ... 1nRXxuAnKA

Greetings

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:55 pm**

Hello again )

I am very pleased to announce that,
A new, but a great idea is born...!!

Very soon I'm going to create a BIN book, which will be
Tuned to prefer latest Depth4 exp series (by Deeds)

To be more clear, according to Deeds tester,
His Depth4 exp managed to win all opponents...but what about under
SCCT- Book/NNUE CS XIV's conditions? Can we expect such performance?
We will see... after all, time will tell...!)
And all this mystery will be solved soon...!!

Greetings

Posted: **Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:02 am**

Update

Depth4_Deeds book test is started, and here are 1st played results
Btw, unfortunately so far, not so good start by Depth4_Deeds book
Sure we are still in the beginning...let's see after more games...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Depth4_Deeds                  -43      19     177   43.8%   85.3% 
   1 HCanFree Upd                  120     127       9   66.7%   66.7% 
   2 Lotusblume                    102     134       7   64.3%   71.4% 
   3 Mustafacanseven                79     102       9   61.1%   77.8% 
   4 OPTIMUS 3.1                    79     102       9   61.1%   77.8% 
   5 ChessBot 170623                79     102       9   61.1%   77.8% 
   6 Chucaro 4 Upd2                 70      92      10   60.0%   80.0% 
   7 Cute by Cevdet                 44      82       8   56.3%   87.5% 
   8 NebulaRing178                  44      82       8   56.3%   87.5% 
   9 KainNew                        44      82       8   56.3%   87.5% 
  10 V by Kerveros                  39      73       9   55.6%   88.9% 
  11 SkynetSCCT 10.1                39      73       9   55.6%   88.9% 
  12 CachoUPD2                      39      73       9   55.6%   88.9% 
  13 OlisFish 220523                35      66      10   55.0%   90.0% 
  14 Agarta                         35      66      10   55.0%   90.0% 
  15 Leschats 140623                35     122      10   55.0%   70.0% 
  16 Predator 2.3                    0       0       9   50.0%  100.0% 
  17 StudentChess                    0       0       8   50.0%  100.0% 
  18 Dara 150222                     0     125       8   50.0%   75.0% 
  19 Goi 241222                      0       0       9   50.0%  100.0% 
  20 OlisFish 040623                 0       0       9   50.0%  100.0% 

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