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Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:23 pm**

UPDATE 2

Via latest update, unfortunately DON Class lost the lead...
But still both DON versions are serious Champ candidates!
Sure Ganryu, Varied... are other serious candidates as well

Where for right now, the current Leader is:
Guzel Kiz Congratulations to Hasan Satrani!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Guzel Kiz                      17      18     355   52.4%   74.4% 
   2 Ganryu                         14      15     362   52.1%   83.1% 
   3 DON Class                       8      14     362   51.1%   85.1% 
   4 DON NN                          5      14     358   50.7%   84.1% 
   5 Varied                          3      14     359   50.4%   84.1% 
   6 1337chess                       1      15     357   50.1%   82.4% 
   7 Cubail                         -2      15     359   49.7%   82.7% 
   8 GalactusTurbo                  -6      14     358   49.2%   83.8% 
   9 Cimarron                       -8      15     360   48.9%   82.8% 
  10 Chucaro                       -11      13     356   48.5%   87.4% 
  11 DarkGalactus                  -21      15     358   46.9%   82.7% 

1972 of 2750 games finished.

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:08 pm**

UPDATE 3

So far, Guzel Kiz's performance is best - Congrats to Mr. Hasan!

On the other hand,
3rd Championship (2022) is still not over...e.g as next:
All of current books will be played by Raubfish NNUE SC,
In this way, we'll have chances to compare the influences,
Playing via 3750 Elo NN engine and via 3600 Elo NON-NN..

In same that means,
Champion title will be determined after 1000 games (per player)

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   1 Guzel Kiz                      22      15     500   53.1%   74.6% 
   2 Ganryu                         17      13     500   52.5%   82.6% 
   3 DON Class                      12      11     500   51.7%   85.8% 
   4 DON NN                          8      12     500   51.2%   84.4% 
   5 Varied                          0      12     500   50.0%   84.0% 
   6 1337chess                      -3      12     500   49.5%   84.6% 
   7 Cubail                         -7      13     500   49.0%   81.2% 
   8 Cimarron                       -8      12     500   48.8%   83.2% 
   9 Chucaro                       -10      11     500   48.5%   87.0% 
  10 GalactusTurbo                 -11      13     500   48.4%   82.8% 
  11 DarkGalactus                  -19      12     500   47.3%   83.4% 

2450 of 2750 games finished.

Note also that
After checking more carefully Guzel Kiz's data, I've noticed that
Minus plus half of played Guzel Kiz's games are based on NON-NN
So exc. DON Class, Guzel Kiz includes many NON-NNUE games too
But this is also true, all others are tuned to prefer 2022 NN games

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:49 am**

UPDATE 4

And here NN tour results, where Ganryu wins..
My Congratulations to Top Playchess Player!

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 #  PLAYER         POINTS(%) 
 1  Ganryu         254.0/500
 2  DON NN         253.5/500
 3  1337chess      251.0/500  
 4  Cubail         251.0/500 
 5  GalactusTurbo  250.5/500
 6  Varied         250.0/500  
 7  Cimarron       250.0/500  
 8  DON Class      248.5/500
 9  Guzel Kiz      248.0/500
10  Chucaro        247.5/500
11  Dark Galactus  246.0/500

Note: All Champs are played by Raubfish NNUE SC

Be aware too,
Overall's both tours results will be shared soon as possible...

Greetings

Posted: **Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:18 am**

Breaking News (06.09.2024):
Via this CS: Ganryu Ganryu Ganryu said the last word again !! Yes and once
More Ganryu's opening lines prove to be one of the best e.g in B/N VI too:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ct-bn-cs-6
2nd rank: Guzel Kız, 3rd + 4th ranks are belonging to both DON books, sure
I'm not going to share all their successful contests again, because I may miss,
But you know, they managed to be as Number Ones many times!! Actually as
Same words are going for all other Top players as well! Ok dear chess friends,
It's time to concentrate over next new planning CS 2023 - 2024, be aware too,
There is a possibility to be played two separate CS, e.g Champ books, which
To be based on only 2023 games, where the other CS to be based on 2024...

3nd Stage (2022) Champion: Ganryu- Congratulations to Playchess Player!

FOR FINAL RANKING:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -35-stage3

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/G1Qx2BJD#UxvO8w3_c ... VQ8Ush7gWk

More Details (when the tour was active):
• Two separate tournaments are organized as NN plus as NON-NN as well
E.g in 1st tour: all books are played via 9-times Champion: Cfish 030820
But in the 2nd tour: all books are participated via Raubfish X48c3 NN SC
• In this new Championship: only Number One / Champ books are allowed
Sure I refer from Past to Present, where all of them are based/derivatives,
Created by Me / all books are BIN, based on only SCCT- NN 2022 tours...
And as players picked which performed Best (Champions/Number Ones)
• Maximum book size limit rule: up to 1 (one) MB (uncompressed) allowed
• Main Settings (for all participants): Book Depth 100 / Best Move Disabled
• Any Opening Book Leader (after 1000 games) will be titled as Champion
• The current overall Draw-Ratio (based on 5500 games) is a bit high: 88%
E.g the tour via NNUE engine: 94% draws are produced / NON-NN: 83%
Yes.. there are higher draws (than other organized tours) as main reason:
Mostly of the opening lines are played each other (sure during 2022 year)
And played serious influence to appear more draws.. since mostly were in
Fight each other..that's why and for more fun..1st tour played as NON-NN

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:04 pm**

Dear Chess Friends,

As usually, I am pleased to announce that
One of my greatest book tours is started !!

And here are the 1st results of Number Ones CS (2023):

By the way, for right now we have 2 (two) Top Book Leaders:
Red Dragon+ Unicornio - Congrats to I. Hurnavich, A. Morano!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Red-Dragon                     43      31     138   56.2%   70.3% 
   2 Unicornio                      43      26     138   56.2%   79.0% 
   3 OrionPax                       33      33     136   54.8%   68.4% 
   4 C.B Conqueror                  25      29     137   53.6%   75.2% 
   5 Grendel                        23      27     135   53.3%   78.5% 
   6 Goddess                        20      28     137   52.9%   76.6% 
   7 M.Canseven                     15      28     137   52.2%   76.6% 
   8 Pimienta                       15      25     138   52.2%   81.2% 
   9 DON M.Chopra                   15      30     138   52.2%   72.5% 
  10 HCan-Upd                       10      29     136   51.5%   75.0% 
  11 Sentinel                       10      24     137   51.5%   82.5% 
  12 Cacho-SCCT                      8      29     137   51.1%   74.5% 
  13 Hamish                          5      28     137   50.7%   76.6% 
  14 Optimus                         3      25     137   50.4%   81.8% 
  15 LesChats                        0      25     137   50.0%   81.0% 
  16 HCanFree                        0      25     137   50.0%   81.0% 
  17 Chucaro                         0      25     138   50.0%   81.2% 
  18 Feta                           -3      30     136   49.6%   74.3% 
  19 Everest 3009                   -3      29     136   49.6%   75.7% 
  20 Taram                          -5      28     138   49.3%   76.8% 
  21 Solista                        -5      28     138   49.3%   76.8% 
  22 DON Hercules                   -5      28     137   49.3%   76.6% 
  23 Everest 0902                   -5      29     136   49.3%   75.0% 
  24 Alchemist                     -10      27     139   48.6%   78.4% 
  25 SF-SE                         -10      31     137   48.5%   72.3% 
  26 Bloom                         -13      32     137   48.2%   70.1% 
  27 SARI                          -13      26     136   48.2%   80.1% 
  28 OlisFish                      -13      30     135   48.1%   74.1% 
  29 Skynet-SCCT                   -15      31     138   47.8%   71.0% 
  30 Sambala                       -15      27     137   47.8%   78.1% 
  31 StudentChess                  -18      26     138   47.5%   79.0% 
  32 Barnabas                      -25      30     137   46.4%   73.7% 
  33 Lion                          -49      28     135   43.0%   75.6% 
  34 Wang Hao                      -64      31     138   40.9%   70.3% 
  
  2329 of 17952 games finished.

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+06s, 32 MB Hash, 4-MEN
All Number Ones are used to play via 9-times Champion: Cfish 030820 C40

More info very soon...

Good luck and have fun )

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:00 pm**

UPDATE 2

Interesting..again we have 2 (two) Book Leaders but this time:
OrionPax + Unicornio - Congrats R. Constantinesco, A. Morano!

Be aware too please, sure later (after 500+ games):
I plan to run the same Champs via NN eng as well..

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Unicornio                      30      19     230   54.3%   81.7% 
   2 OrionPax                       30      25     230   54.3%   68.7% 
   3 Red-Dragon                     26      25     230   53.7%   69.1% 
   4 LesChats                       23      22     230   53.3%   76.1% 
   5 Goddess                        20      23     230   52.8%   74.3% 
   6 DON M.Chopra                   17      23     230   52.4%   74.3% 
   7 Sentinel                       15      20     231   52.2%   80.1% 
   8 C.B Conqueror                  15      23     232   52.2%   73.3% 
   9 Grendel                        14      22     229   52.0%   76.0% 
  10 Pimienta                        8      21     230   51.1%   78.7% 
  11 HCanFree                        8      21     230   51.1%   77.8% 
  12 Optimus                         6      20     230   50.9%   80.9% 
  13 M.Canseven                      6      23     230   50.9%   73.9% 
  14 SARI                            5      22     231   50.6%   75.3% 
  15 Everest 0902                    3      23     230   50.4%   74.8% 
  16 Solista                         3      22     231   50.4%   76.6% 
  17 Hamish                          2      23     231   50.2%   74.5% 
  18 Chucaro                         0      20     230   50.0%   80.0% 
  19 Cacho-SCCT                      0      23     231   50.0%   74.0% 
  20 Feta                           -2      21     231   49.8%   77.9% 
  21 DON Hercules                   -2      23     229   49.8%   73.4% 
  22 OlisFish                       -3      22     231   49.6%   75.8% 
  23 Alchemist                      -3      21     231   49.6%   78.4% 
  24 Everest 3009                   -5      23     231   49.4%   72.7% 
  25 HCan-Upd                       -5      21     230   49.3%   77.8% 
  26 StudentChess                  -14      21     231   48.1%   77.9% 
  27 Sambala                       -15      22     230   47.8%   76.5% 
  28 Skynet-SCCT                   -15      23     229   47.8%   72.9% 
  29 Taram                         -17      23     231   47.6%   72.7% 
  30 SF-SE                         -20      23     230   47.2%   72.6% 
  31 Lion                          -26      22     231   46.3%   75.3% 
  32 Bloom                         -27      26     231   46.1%   67.1% 
  33 Barnabas                      -29      23     230   45.9%   72.6% 
  34 Wang Hao                      -49      23     230   43.0%   73.0%

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:15 pm**

UPDATE 3

1st of all, let Me say this new saying please:
You know, simply I'm just creator..and without you:
No any of my based Champ books would be so strong!
Exception Perfect books (belongs to my own ideas..)

On the other hand,
Yes for right now we have a new Book Leader:
DON M. Chopra: Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!

To be more clear,
Manoj Chopra = Asia's strongest man (Born in India)
In other words, this name perfectly suits...right ?)

And if you going to ask what are the differences
Between both vers: DON Hercules and DON M.Chopra?
DON Hercules is tuned to prefer mainly its wins..
Where DON M.Chopra book is based on draws + wins!

Actually,
Mostly of rest Champ books are based on wins + draws too!

What I can say more,
The championship is still not ended... and plenty of more
Games will be played .. so not clear what will be next ranks...
But what's clear: FUN is ON..at least not 'dead' for sure !)

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 DON M.Chopra                   28      18     397   54.0%   71.8% 
   2 Unicornio                      27      14     399   53.9%   82.2% 
   3 OrionPax                       21      19     397   53.0%   69.8% 
   4 Goddess                        18      18     396   52.7%   73.5% 
   5 Red-Dragon                     17      19     398   52.5%   68.8% 
   6 C.B Conqueror                  17      18     399   52.5%   73.4% 
   7 Pimienta                       17      16     396   52.4%   78.5% 
   8 Grendel                        14      16     397   52.0%   76.8% 
   9 DON Hercules                   11      17     396   51.6%   74.0% 
  10 Sentinel                       11      15     398   51.6%   79.6% 
  11 Chucaro                        10      16     396   51.4%   79.0% 
  12 LesChats                        9      17     394   51.3%   76.1% 
  13 Cacho-SCCT                      5      17     398   50.8%   74.4% 
  14 Everest 3009                    4      17     397   50.5%   74.3% 
  15 Optimus                         3      15     396   50.4%   79.5% 
  16 Everest 0902                    1      17     398   50.1%   75.6% 
  17 Solista                        -2      16     398   49.7%   77.9% 
  18 SARI                           -2      17     397   49.7%   74.8% 
  19 Hamish                         -4      18     396   49.5%   72.7% 
  20 HCan-Upd                       -4      16     398   49.4%   77.1% 
  21 HCanFree                       -4      16     396   49.4%   78.0% 
  22 Sambala                        -5      17     397   49.2%   74.8% 
  23 M.Canseven                     -5      17     395   49.2%   74.2% 
  24 Alchemist                      -6      16     398   49.1%   79.1% 
  25 Feta                           -6      17     397   49.1%   76.1% 
  26 Taram                          -7      17     398   49.0%   75.9% 
  27 StudentChess                  -12      16     397   48.2%   76.8% 
  28 OlisFish                      -16      17     396   47.7%   74.7% 
  29 Bloom                         -16      19     396   47.7%   69.7% 
  30 SF-SE                         -17      17     396   47.6%   74.0% 
  31 Skynet-SCCT                   -19      18     397   47.2%   73.3% 
  32 Lion                          -23      17     395   46.7%   76.2% 
  33 Barnabas                      -29      19     398   45.9%   69.6% 
  34 Wang Hao                      -37      18     397   44.7%   72.8%

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:06 pm**

Breaking News (07.09.2024):
Here are the 1st tour's standings (played as NON-NN), actually is easy to be
Recognized (sure I refer when NON-NN or NN) from draw perc. values plus
If NNUE is enabled, then usually the Elo differences are less..you may know,
It's harder to get high points plus to produce lower draw values....By the way,
While I mention about stats...without to not mention this I can't too: e.g if we
Are going to compare B/N XXXV CS's all stages statistics, then to be honest:
The greatest / best NN record belongs to Perfect 16: with 56% win perc. and
72% draw ratio (sure I refer for close in dates Champ books on same PC, not
Via Online...if Online Perfect 16 had better records..) Btw, some accused/said:
Perfect 16 book is a clone one (in the past) so I have a question to all experts:
If P16 is a clone..then how/why P16 produced all these 'unbelievable' stats?
That never seen before.. maybe seen.. but I can not remember (sure as NN)
And P16 lost the lead after many newer releases (e.g to Champs 2015-2017)
Sure the CS is still active and who knows? Perhaps we will see better NN stats...
If still not clear: to have higher win. perc. but with lower draw ratio, and again
To be close (in years) Champ books e.g Perfect 16's greatest record Results
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QgosVF ... drive_link
On other hard, DON book is current Number One..impressive..and is this all
Surprise? I hardly doubt.. because DON is proved many times as one of best!
Note also 2nd tour (as NN) is already started too..exactly with same players!
And soon as possible more info is coming..and as usual please stay tuned )

4rd Stage (2023) Leader: DON M. Chopra - My Congratulations to Vasid Chouhan!
Note As all others, DON is my work, tuned to prefer theirs original openings too

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Rank Name           Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 DON M.Chopra   3659   14   14   528   54%  3630   73% 
   2 Unicornio      3655   14   14   528   54%  3630   80% 
   3 OrionPax       3651   14   14   528   53%  3630   69% 
   4 DON Hercules   3648   14   14   528   53%  3630   74% 
   5 Red-Dragon     3647   14   14   528   52%  3630   70% 
   6 Goddess        3644   14   14   528   52%  3630   72% 
   7 Grendel        3644   14   14   528   52%  3630   77% 
   8 Pimienta       3642   14   14   528   52%  3630   79% 
   9 C.B Conqueror  3639   14   14   528   51%  3630   74% 
  10 Chucaro        3639   14   14   528   51%  3630   79% 
  11 Sentinel       3638   14   14   528   51%  3630   80% 
  12 Everest 3009   3637   14   14   528   51%  3630   73% 
  13 Cacho-SCCT     3637   14   14   528   51%  3630   75% 
  14 LesChats       3634   14   14   528   50%  3630   75% 
  15 Optimus        3634   14   14   528   51%  3630   79% 
  16 Solista        3633   14   14   528   50%  3630   77% 
  17 SARI           3631   14   14   528   50%  3630   76% 
  18 M.Canseven     3630   14   14   528   50%  3631   73% 
  19 Sambala        3628   14   14   528   50%  3631   74% 
  20 Taram          3627   14   14   528   50%  3631   74% 
  21 HCanFree       3627   14   14   528   49%  3631   77% 
  22 Alchemist      3627   14   14   528   49%  3631   79% 
  23 Everest 0902   3626   14   14   528   49%  3631   76% 
  24 Hamish         3625   14   14   528   49%  3631   72% 
  25 HCan-Upd       3624   14   14   528   49%  3631   79% 
  26 Skynet-SCCT    3620   14   14   528   48%  3631   73% 
  27 StudentChess   3619   14   14   528   48%  3631   78% 
  28 Feta           3616   14   14   528   48%  3631   77% 
  29 Bloom          3614   14   14   528   48%  3631   70% 
  30 SF-SE          3612   14   14   528   47%  3631   73% 
  31 OlisFish       3611   14   14   528   47%  3631   75% 
  32 Lion           3611   14   14   528   47%  3631   76% 
  33 Barnabas       3607   14   14   528   47%  3631   69% 
  34 Wang Hao       3600   14   14   528   45%  3631   72%

FOR MORE DETAILS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -35-stage4

GREETINGS

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:42 pm**

UPDATE 1

And here are the tour's results via NN (Raubfish SC):

BN CS XXXV (2023) Current NN Leader: Goddess - Congratulations to Olivier Charles!
2nd rank Unicornio, where 3rd is DON Hercules..in other words, not so bad as well!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Goddess                        24      15     355   53.4%   81.4% 
   2 Unicornio                      23      13     355   53.2%   87.3% 
   3 DON Hercules                   18      17     354   52.5%   76.8% 
   4 Everest 3009                   18      14     357   52.5%   84.9% 
   5 Red-Dragon                     13      16     358   51.8%   80.2% 
   6 Pimienta                       12      12     357   51.7%   89.4% 
   7 OrionPax                       11      16     357   51.5%   80.1% 
   8 OlisFish                       11      13     357   51.5%   86.3% 
   9 DON M.Chopra                   10      14     355   51.4%   84.8% 
  10 SARI                            8      11     355   51.1%   89.9% 
  11 Sentinel                        8      10     358   51.1%   91.6% 
  12 Cacho-SCCT                      5      13     353   50.7%   87.8% 
  13 C.B Conqueror                   3      12     354   50.4%   89.5% 
  14 Sambala                         3      13     355   50.4%   87.9% 
  15 HCanFree                        2      12     356   50.3%   88.2% 
  16 Optimus                         2      13     357   50.3%   86.0% 
  17 Hamish                          1      14     355   50.1%   83.9% 
  18 Grendel                         1      12     355   50.1%   88.5% 
  19 LesChats                        1      14     356   50.1%   84.6% 
  20 Everest 0902                    0      11     357   50.0%   90.5% 
  21 StudentChess                   -1      10     356   49.9%   93.0% 
  22 Alchemist                      -2      11     357   49.7%   91.0% 
  23 Feta                           -4      12     356   49.4%   88.8% 
  24 Skynet-SCCT                    -6      13     355   49.2%   87.0% 
  25 HCan-Upd                       -9      13     356   48.7%   86.8% 
  26 Barnabas                      -11      13     356   48.5%   86.8% 
  27 Taram                         -11      13     355   48.5%   87.3% 
  28 SF-SE                         -12      13     356   48.3%   87.1% 
  29 Solista                       -16      14     354   47.7%   85.9% 
  30 Chucaro                       -16      10     354   47.7%   91.5% 
  31 Lion                          -17      14     355   47.6%   85.6% 
  32 M.Canseven                    -18      14     356   47.5%   84.3% 
  33 Bloom                         -19      16     355   47.3%   80.6% 
  34 Wang Hao                      -31      14     357   45.5%   84.9% 

6047 of 8976 games finished.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:10 am**

UPDATE 2

Here are the latest tour's results via NN (Raubfish SC):

And very interesting..e.g for right now we have 3 (three) NN
Book Leaders: Everest, Goddess and Unicornio - Congrats...!

Ok..as next planning update:
Both CS (NN + NON-NN tours) will be merged into one standing...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Everest 3009                   22      12     499   53.2%   85.2% 
   2 Unicornio                      22      10     496   53.1%   88.5% 
   3 Goddess                        22      13     498   53.1%   82.1% 
   4 DON Hercules                   18      14     496   52.5%   79.2% 
   5 DON M.Chopra                   14      12     497   52.0%   85.1% 
   6 Red-Dragon                     11      13     499   51.6%   80.8% 
   7 Pimienta                       10       9     499   51.5%   90.6% 
   8 SARI                            8       9     497   51.2%   90.3% 
   9 LesChats                        8      12     501   51.2%   84.4% 
  10 Cacho-SCCT                      8      10     497   51.1%   88.1% 
  11 OrionPax                        8      13     498   51.1%   81.7% 
  12 OlisFish                        6      11     499   50.9%   86.6% 
  13 StudentChess                    6       9     499   50.8%   92.0% 
  14 Sentinel                        4      10     496   50.6%   89.9% 
  15 Optimus                         3      11     500   50.5%   85.8% 
  16 Sambala                         1      10     498   50.2%   88.4% 
  17 C.B Conqueror                   1      10     498   50.1%   90.2% 
  18 Hamish                          1      11     500   50.1%   85.8% 
  19 HCanFree                        0      10     501   50.0%   88.4% 
  20 Grendel                        -1      10     500   49.8%   88.8% 
  21 Everest 0902                   -1       9     500   49.8%   91.2% 
  22 Alchemist                      -3       9     500   49.6%   92.0% 
  23 Taram                          -6      10     496   49.2%   88.3% 
  24 HCan-Upd                       -8      10     500   48.9%   88.2% 
  25 Skynet-SCCT                    -8      11     497   48.9%   87.7% 
  26 Feta                           -8      10     499   48.8%   88.4% 
  27 Barnabas                      -13      11     496   48.1%   86.5% 
  28 Chucaro                       -15       9     498   47.9%   91.8% 
  29 Bloom                         -15      13     496   47.9%   82.9% 
  30 Solista                       -15      11     497   47.8%   86.7% 
  31 M.Canseven                    -17      12     499   47.6%   84.8% 
  32 SF-SE                         -17      11     498   47.6%   86.7% 
  33 Lion                          -17      11     499   47.5%   85.8% 
  34 Wang Hao                      -29      11     499   45.8%   85.6% 

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