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Adrian Oliva wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:29 pm

APOCALYPSE wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:24 am Permanent Brain: OFF
Permanent Brain: ON

Hello APOCALYPSE, I was using Permanent Brain ON in my tests, but since my PC is a little old, they recommended that I use Permanent Brain OFF again.
Greetings

You can run tests on 1 Thread, but with the Ponder feature enabled.

Adrian Oliva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:02 pm Never Happy bin (Janus) vs. Piranha 0.1 bin (Skynet)

Congratulations Skynet!

Dear Mr. Adrian,

Your published one of previous posting seems to be not correct...
It should be something like that, if nothing else now is better:

Never Happy bin (Janus) vs. OPTIMUS-PB bin (ConRog)

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit Operating System - x64 processor - Windows 10 Pro - 1024 mb hash – Fritz 16 GUI – Permanent Brain: OFF - Both Engines play with 4 threads and large pages - Opening Books: Never Happy bin vs. OPTIMUS-PB bin - Final Tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - NNUE: Stockfish PB: nn-0000000000a0.nnue

Book Settings

Never Happy bin:

Best Book Move OFF
Book Depth 100

OPTIMUS-PB bin:

Best Book Move OFF
Book Depth 40

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 4min+1seg 0


1 SF PB 051123 OPTIMUS-PB bin +9 +8/=263/-1 51.29% 139.5/272
2 SF PB 051123 Never Happy bin -9 +1/=263/-8 48.71% 132.5/272

Games in PGN: https://www.mediafire.com/file/oqyrijz6 ... n.pgn/file

Congratulations ConRog!

One thing more, I think also that (for more fair, right data...) I suggest:
Your played games should be re-named to OPTIMUS (instead of fake Pirahna)

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:43 am One thing more, I think also that (for more fair, right data...) I suggest:
Your played games should be re-named to OPTIMUS (instead of fake Pirahna)

I think Roger has to make decision about all this, and it is all that matters for me. Regarding fake Piranha - well as i said, i slightly tuned and added (more than 3 mb) database in the book, so was it 100% win by OPTIMUS? Again, this is what Roger has to decide, and i will simply agree with that.

APOCALYPSE wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:29 am You can run tests on 1 Thread, but with the Ponder feature enabled.

Hi, running the engine on Adrian's PC with 1 or 2 cores will provide much less speed (with 2 cores about ~300.000 Ns less), besides when the same engine playing against it self (for both sides), with Ponder ON the number of predicted moves is too high and this lead to more draws.

Skynet wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:51 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:43 am One thing more, I think also that (for more fair, right data...) I suggest:
Your played games should be re-named to OPTIMUS (instead of fake Pirahna)

I think Roger has to make decision about all this, and it is all that matters for me. Regarding fake Piranha - well as i said, i slightly tuned and added (more than 3 mb) database in the book, so was it 100% win by OPTIMUS? Again, this is what Roger has to decide, and i will simply agree with that.

Hi everybody,
Since Skynet said he used OPTIMUS Book to make Pyranha it's ok for me.
He can use it as it is, with this name. Just add my pseudo with yours if you continue "tuning" this private book.

Thanks Skynet for private message with link to your book.
Best regards.

Hello to all friends and colleagues of the forum:
I want to inform you that from now on, if you have any doubt about irregularities in any book or engine that I use in my tests, you must contact the forum authorities since I am a simple tester who is based on the trust and goodwill of everyone and I cannot check all the time and much less pass judgment on any irregularity since I am not qualified to do that. Thanks for your understanding.
Greetings

Hazard v4.1_avx2 vs. Brainlearn 26.5 AVX2

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 Pro - 1024 mb hash Fritz 16 GUI – Permanent Brain: OFF – Both Engines Play with 4 Threads and Large Pages - Opening Book: GM Test Book v3 ctg - Final Tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces – NNUE: Brainlearn: nn-0000000000a0.nnue - Hazard and Brainlearn Experience on and Learning from 0

Book Settings:

1.Tournament UNCHECKED
2.Min games 3-35
3.Variety of play 215
4.Influence of learn 0
5.Learning strength 0

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 4min+1seg 0


1 Hazard v4.1_avx2 +1 +9/=413/-8 50.12% 215.5/430
2 Brainlearn 26.5 AVX2 -1 +8/=413/-9 49.88% 214.5/430

Games in PGN: https://www.mediafire.com/file/iah3o6th ... 8.pgn/file

Congratulations OrgZ!

SF PB 021223 AVX2 vs. Sawfish 2TC_avx2

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 Pro - 1024 mb hash Fritz 16 GUI – Permanent Brain: OFF – Both Engines Play with 4 Threads and Large Pages - Opening Book: OliBiyu 10.4 Opening Suite ctg - Final Tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces – NNUE: nn-0000000000a0.nnue for Both Engines

Book Settings:

1.Tournament ON
2.Min games 0-10
3.Variety of play 300
4.Influence of learn 100
5.Learning strength 500

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 4min+1seg 0


1 Sawfish 2TC_avx2 +6/=288/-6 50.00% 150.0/300 6116.00
2 SF PB 021223 AVX2 +6/=288/-6 50.00% 150.0/300 6116.00

Games in PGN: https://www.mediafire.com/file/9w6w1h74 ... 9.pgn/file

APOCALYPSE wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:31 am offtopic content.

We are almost in 2024, and you looking on results of 190619.

Skynet wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:12 am We are almost in 2024, and you looking on results of 190619.

It doesn't matter what year it is, I just want to say that the results with Ponder disabled are worse than with Ponder enabled.