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Breaking News - 22.11.2023:
A small update: 6 books entered, where this time Top standings changed..
Yes EVEREST is EVEREST again and again Number ONE! just excellent
Note: exactly the same Everest book ver. is managed 3-times Champion!
And latest OPTIMUS 2311 vers. is the new Public Champion! great score..
Btw, I realized to test BN VI Chapmion too, where performed not bad...but
Ganryu's produced overall draws are little high...however no BIG surprise...
Because after checking the source online database, almost all games draw
Note also that Katzenmaier, Kaiser, Scorpio, TR POWER, Zeus plus many..
Are too old-dated (about 2-3 years old), so theirs performances suffer..but
Just fun tours..so please do not take too seriously the latest played results


Private Book Champion EVEREST 300923 - Congratulations to I. Alekseev!
Public Champion: OPTIMUS 2311 - Congratulations to R. Constantinesco!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-21


Best,
Sedat

Breaking News (24.11.2023):
Another new championship organized..congrats and BIG thanks to all authors!
Be aware that all the participants are started without any pre-learned exp..
Yes Mr. Nemeth's engine (SunLight) managed to be again Champ, impressive!
For anyone missed, the same SunLight vers is already 2 (two) times as Champ,
Where 2nd + 3rd rank are going to Mr. Ramz's engines (Patzer, AWOL), great!
One of former Champions by Mr. Ces (Tactical 281023) performed as 4th.rank
Sure exc Tactical engine KillFish and Corchess are performed 4th too, nice!
Note: A new MP + Blitz tour (with current 6 high-ranked players) very soon!

XLV's Champion: Sun Light 3 - Congratulations to Eduard Nemeth, SF Team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-45

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/ygZkXDRb#5TDnkgUpF ... 2-3XuCJnVg

Best,
Sedat

Breaking News (24.11.2023):
The new MP + Blitz tour endeed too, yes... under more serious cond.
The situation is totally different: AWOL Z11 engine is Number One!
Anyhow, you can appreciate any standing which your like more... !)

Blitz Champion: AWOL Z11- Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF Team!

For FINAL Standings, Games etc:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-45


Best,
Sedat

Breaking News - 27.11.2023:
Well, via latest update, current tourney ended..congrats and thanks to all!
LooseCanon book (by Tanick Ramz) performed very good..plus if we check
Its produced draw ratio: 85% can be considered not so high numbers..nice!
About SCCT book, based on games played by various Perfect book series,
Where the Balsa 2023 book contains wins.. played by Balsa opening suite,
Sure my created both books are not competitor ones.. just out of curiosity...
And now is more clear their picture. I mean even without tuning deep lines,
Their ranks are not as last rank) ok friends, that's all for now, see you later)

Private Book Champion EVEREST 300923 - Congratulations to Ivan Alekseev!
Public Champion: OPTIMUS 2311 - Congratulations to Roger Constantinesco!

For FINAL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-21

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/6140QTgJ#QoyjLWaC1 ... BTaQCwuBMU


Best,
Sedat

Breaking News - 30.11.2023:
Another exciting championship, which will contain 2 Leagues: 2nd + Super
What's new: All entries will be played by 3-times Champ: SF Poly 220723
Where the opponents will be with weaker engines (about 20 Elo weaker..)
Btw, the ongoing competition seems to be one of hardest that ever seen...!
Not exactly same, but the current test conditions reminds Me as BN CS V
A few quick notes more, all my created constant books are based on wins,
But on many various book players games, to be more clear, I did not touch
Latest Champions openings, almost all includes engine games, exception
Neptune book which is tuned to prefer only and many GMs opening lines.
More details soon as possible and meanwhile be ready for the real arena!

Second League Leader: EVEREST - My Congratulations to Ivan Alekseev!
Congrats to qualified authors too..unfortunately some were not so lucky..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-22



Best,
Sedat

UPDATE

Note also that 10.000 strength games are played about 20 Elo difference...
And sure I hope to share all strength test results in the next coming days

Meanwhile,
Sun is latest qualified entry plus as same version, which is constant player too,
And frankly, I'm little bit surprised for 10-15 min work to be superior strong!
All credits are going to SCCT Book Authors, I'm just a creator, no more no less...

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-22

Greetings

Another Update

SCCT Book / NNUE CS XXII - Strength Test

Overall Performance: 21 Elo Difference
Individual's Performance
Note also that I tested many more other engines, but shared only the suitable ones!
In short, the target was to pick, which are close to 20 Elo difference/less DRAWISH
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Hash Strength Test:
As final conclusion (for Bullet): 64 MB hash size seems to be as best!
To be sure 100% about yours.., run your own hash strength testings...
Because it depends on your cond.: Time Control, MP, Hardware Speed etc.

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/y0BhCbiD#LuAhmKrcM ... I-8xmMTScg

Breaking News - 01.12.2023:
Here is the latest update, 7 entries and only 2 of them managed to qualify!
E.g Drifter, Black Knight Returns and Shadow are created by Ian Hurnavich,
Where SENTINEL 3 by Roger Constantinesco, Goi forum by Cevdet Sari
And as usual, LesChats opening books are created by Jorge Ruiz Centelles
No Book means SF-POLY 220723 engine is played without using any book
Another remarkable point is that HCanFree is the only Public one, which is
Managed to qualify..even much old-dated (released more than 6 months ago)
By the way, Super League tour is already started and will be without NNUE
And why I preferred as NON-NNUE? this is a long story...anyhow, in short:
Well, via huge assistance any 'book'' can manage to play stronger, right ?)
Besides I think that not bad idea to see what happens under classic cond..
And all qualified books will be played by 8-times Champion: Cfish 030820
Ok...dear chess friends, wishing all of you good luck..let's best book wins!

Second League Leader: EVEREST - My Congratulations to Ivan Alekseev!
Congrats to qualified authors too..unfortunately some were not so lucky..

For Latest Standings of Second League:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-22


Best,
Sedat

Breaking News - 01.12.2023:
And here is the 1st played results of Super League...yes, under these cond.
The situation is different..as we see, without assistance..it's harder for sure!
But I admit that well-tuned and most recent updated books are unstoppable!
Especially I mean about SENTINEL, ORIONPAX, Unicornio, Red Dragon etc.
Anyhow, the tour is still in beginning, let's see ranking after more games..
Because 400 games can be considered as not so bad data, but not enough...

Current Book Leader: SENTINEL - Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!

For Super League's Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-22-super


Best,
Sedat

Hello there again )

Well, right now I noticed a private message by Top author,
Who was claiming that 3800 Elo is high...and that's why
Mostly Public books can not qualify..

So due to respect...I decided to not give his book names etc.,
But quite interesting...so I realized to share some of my thoughts:
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1st of all
Tour's target is not against the Public opening books !!
And to be more clear even I give Champ tittles for them!
Evem when they are much ranked below than private ones!
Plus if so far, almost all public ones could not manage..
And frankly, I think that this is not my problem, right ?)

Meanwhile,
Right now I am testing many other Public books too..
And if I am not wrong.. one more Public book managed to
Qualify (by Cevdet Sari)..so two Public ones are qualified!
And who knows?) maybe in the next minutes, hours, days..
More public ones will qualify.?..it is just matter of time!

On other hand and as I stated before,
Unfortunately some Top books were not so lucky..
E.g one of the Public books is yours...But who knows?)
E.g if I re-play the same test ..it may be in...
Sometimes really 'luck' is required... be aware of that too
Your book or any other can not be always became as Champion!
It is impossible that each time and any cond. to qualify etc. !

Regarding the new qualification rule of 3800+ Elo,
I think that 3800 is not extremely high for Super League!
Otherwise, what is the point?..if will be easy barrier ?)
And just in case... if we will drop less Elo points etc.
Then we can not call and name it as Super League, right ?

Just a few examples more,
Exc. that HCanFree (as 6-months old) is qualified...
As other example,
I spent about 10 min for creation for Sun book, where
Mmanaged to qualify...even without any beta test etc.
Just imagine..if a experienced book maker will run some
Experimental, serious tests and special hand tuning etc.
Then very likely will pass easy 3800+ Elo points!

One thing more,
No Book is performed 3780 Elo in points, right ?
So just +20 Elo is needed over 3800+ Elo
I mean it should not be so hard...to reach...?
Besides, the engine opponents are 20 Elo weaker..
Plus mostly of my created, used lines for 10 Constants
Books can be considered as very old-dated openings !!

Anyhow,
This is as new book concept of testings..
I mean Superior strong engine to play vs
Weaker engines (about 20 Elo weaker)!
Sure some lines may not work as before..
But via harder work, as you know:
There is nothing impossible!

As final words,
The good news is that some books including some of yours,
Are already managed to qualify in Super League tour as well!
The bad news is that,
I can not suit to all Authors needs..not all in my hands!
Sorry...

And without to not mention this I can not as well,
If your all books were as qualified in Super League ?
Then I wonder, did you believe that 3800+ is high ?))

But however,
Just fun tours...no more...no less and please
Do not take too seriously the latest results !)

Have a nice weekend to all )

Best,
Sedat