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UPDATE

1st of all,
BIG thanks to Mr. Tanick Ramz (OrgZ), for his support over SCCT tours!
I've seen a lot of programmers, but his work belongs to one of the best!

Just via my yesterday's request ...and in very short time,
OrgZ is managed to help here again..that means a lot !!

And what is new,
Neon Tetra v2 is a new candidate engine, which supports BIN + CTG
And as most important is that, very close in strength to Raubfish SC
And in same time Neon Tetra v2 includes the new updated CTG future,
E.g older SF-SCCT engine's CTG code seems to be buggy.. not sure exactly
What will be CTG influences with N. Tetra, but very soon will be clear..
But I expect, sure via CTG: Neon Tetra v2 will do better influences ...

Meanwhile, here are latest new strength results, as we see after 745
Out of 2000 games: 0.5 point diff. it seems they are close in strength..
Be aware too, Neon Tetra v2 is playing with move overhead 50, where
Raubfish SC via 200, e.g same values are used as in recent XXXVII CS !

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Score of Neon Tetra v2 vs Raubfisch GTZ SC: 75 - 74 - 596 [0.501]
...      Neon Tetra v2 playing White: 57 - 29 - 289  [0.537] 375
...      Neon Tetra v2 playing Black: 18 - 45 - 307  [0.464] 370
...      White vs Black: 102 - 47 - 596  [0.537] 745
Elo difference: 0.5 +/- 11.1, LOS: 53.3 %, DrawRatio: 80.0 %
745 of 2000 games finished.
Same conditions are used..as in recent XXXVII CS, exc.
Balsa + Unique openings are used to play...

GAMES: later will be shared, sorry here no free time for all
And thanks for your understanding...

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UPDATE 2

1st test + 2 Elo (in favor for Neon Tetra v2)

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1   Neon Tetra v2  +160/-149/=1691 50.28%  1005.5/2000
2   Raubfish SC    +149/-160/=1691 49.73%   994.5/2000
Draw-Ratio is not so high: 84%

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2nd test + 3 Elo (in favor for Raubfish GTZ SC)

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1   Raubfisch GTZ SC  +202/-187/=1611 50.38%  1007.5/2000
2   Neon Tetra v2     +187/-202/=1611 49.63%   992.5/2000
Draw-Ratio is unbelievable, just: 80% ( very low draw record!)

Btw,
Did you ever see similar low draw records, to be produced by 3750+ NN ?
Oh pardon...once happened... produced by Perfect 16 book: 72% draws !!

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/zxQElT4a#y8POIrdwA ... aLYMcDJ8YQ

Final Conclusion (about CTG book formats under Cutechess):
- FUN is all right (e.g theirs produced draws are very low)
- Strength is all right (both almost identical in strength)
- Eng Stability is all right too (no crashes, time forfeits)
- CTG Stability is not all right (CTG code seems to be buggy)
E.g often is earlier out of book or playing the defeats..!

After all,
All the above important factors are enough ? not of course !!
In other words (sure for future tours and for more fair cond.):
Unfortunately CTG books out, only BIN books will be played!
Who knows..may be one day my good dream will become true,
But it's very clear also that not 'yet'

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Hello Chess Friends,

1st of all,
I would like to express my gratitude to all WCCC
Tournament Organizers, Engine, Book Authors...
For over long period time: 50 years (half-century)!!
And really sad that WCCC is coming to its end,
No doubt that it will be BIG miss for many of us!

Anyhow, I've good news, since a special day
Celebrating, mentioning 50 years of WCCC,
While SCCT has less active period: 27 years!
Anyhow I think that it's a long period of time,
Especially to be hold / managed by single TD!
As most important: no sponsors, donations etc.
Because 'chess' is my hobby...no more no less!!

In other words, a new tournament idea is born:
SCCT (25m + 10s) is coming soon and it will be
Adapted to WCCC's cond. sure here not all will
Be same.. such as some WCCC vers. are private...
However, it will be close for sure! as main difference
1st SCCT tour cond. will be much more fair, since
All will be played on same, but fast CPU machine!

To be more clear, for more fair + high-quality games,
All SCCT engine matches are planning to be played:

- 2x EPYC 7B12 (128 Cores / 256 Threads)
- New/Updated Balsa openings will be used,
Where each opening will be played 'twice'
- Ponder ON (thinking on opponent's turn)
- Slow Rapid Time Control: 25 min + 10 sec
- MP (4 Cores/Game), Hash: 4096 MB, etc.

PARTICIPANTS:
Arasan v24.2.2
Ares v1.005.2
Chiron 5
Deep Junior 13.3
Deep Shredder 13
Ginkgo (Fritz 19)
Jonny 4.00
Komodo Dragon 3.3
rofChade 3.1 NN
Rybka (Fritz 16)
ShashChess Santiago
The Baron 3.45
Tornado 9 NNUE
Zappa Mexico II


More Details / Tournament Rules:
• WCCC 2024's mostly + the frequent of last 5 years are picked..
• As alternative, since 1995: all WCCC's Former Champs are in!
Reason, older Winners are not compatible...required DOS OS
• Be aware too that each player will contain minimum 52 games
Btw here is another similarity 'number' to the years of WCCC !)
• GPU engine/s (e.g Lc0) is out, simply due to parallel matches
• Instead of Own books: Balsa openings, due to many engines
Released as without own books or many of them as old dated,
Where Balsa rarely make mistakes, proved over years: Details
Sure for better ideas, opinions..please feel free to Contact Me

Meanwhile,
Any guess? e.g which engines will manage to be in Top ?)

And wishing good luck to all players, from past to present!

For more info, you can check official main tournament page:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ed-to-wccc


Best Regards,
Sedat Canbaz
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